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Thursday, June 28, 2012

108 parts = NaNach

The latest banishment of the Jews living in Israel (Ulpana - http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/157329#.T-ya37We5-Y), it has been decreed upon them to cut their houses into 108 = נ נח parts - this is a clear indication that had they publicized the holy awesome name Na Nach Nachma Nachman MeUman they would have been spared this exile.

May H"Y fill their loss.

NNNNM!

5 comments:

Kalman Caspa said...

Are you saying this as a fact, that they are being punished for not doing hafatza? How much hafatza exactly would they have had to do to have been spared this? How many stickers would they have had to put up? How many times would they have had to say Na Nach Nachma Nachman MeUman in order for Hashem to have spared them?

I know of a famous rav who once publicly told his community that rhe reason terrible things were happening in their community was because the women there weren't covering their hair well enough. This man is not a prophet. There are other ways to teach women about covering their hair besides terrifying them and embarrassing them into doing it - and anyway he was outright lying because he didn't really know why terrible things were happening in his community. So you are allowed to lie in order to get people to do mitzvos? Aren't Nanachs into Emes?

Daas Nanach said...

There are many resons why people could be punished but Hafatza could have saved them. For example Saba said if the Breslovers of Poland would have been Mafitz the Petek then the Holocost would not have happened. This done not mean that Saba said all these people had to die as a punishment for not doing Hafatza. It means that there was already a strong decree for many other reasons. However Hashem in his great mercy sent them one last chance for them to be saved. This was the Petek arriving in Poland on the eve of WWII. If they would have taken advantage of this and done the proper Hafatza then that merit would have nullified the decree or in the very least have pushed it off for more years.

Anonymous said...

Also just for the record there were many times in history where big Tzadikim pinpointed a certain catastrophe to a certain sin or laxity committed by the public.

Kalman Caspa said...

I hear you both of you. Does Saba say this in Yisrael Saba or in Sichos Mitoch Chayei HaSaba? I don't recall this.

Are you saying that because Saba said this (Daas Nanach) or because great tzaddikim said what they said (anonymous), this gives every single Nanach (NaaNaach) the right to say "if they would have done hafatza they would have been saved"? And exactly how much hafatza would they need to have done?

Kalman Caspa said...

Daas Nanach commented above:
For example Saba said if the Breslovers of Poland would have been Mafitz the Petek then the Holocost would not have happened. This done not mean that Saba said all these people had to die as a punishment for not doing Hafatza. It means that there was already a strong decree for many other reasons. However Hashem in his great mercy sent them one last chance for them to be saved. This was the Petek arriving in Poland on the eve of WWII. If they would have taken advantage of this and done the proper Hafatza then that merit would have nullified the decree or in the very least have pushed it off for more years.
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See pg. 171 in Conversations from the Life of the Saba and you will see that this is untrue. All Saba said was "who knows". I will post more of this on nanachtalk.com