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Sunday, October 23, 2011

A new reply to an old blog that tried to ridicule the holy name of Rabbi Nachman

rafael has left a new comment on the post "Based On "A Childish Prank"
- Na Nach Nachma":

Rabbi Sears Shalom !

Many years ago [about 20] when I was investigating the "petek" I
looked up Rav Ashcenazi's son [not grandson]. His name was Avraham
Aschenazi. He passed away a couple of years ago in Bnei Brak. He told
me that he was a personal witness at the moment that Rav Odesser came
out of his room with the petek that he found in the book. He told me
that very shortly afterwards, the avrechim at Rabbi Meir ba'al haness
yeshiva were so upset about such a miracle happenning to the breslever
chassid that was so obstinate with his belief in Rabbi Nachman, they
made a thourough inquiry and couldn't find the "culprit" who played
the prank. So some of them started saying that it must have been
Aschenazi, since he was the prankster [leytzan] of the yeshiva. This
son [Avraham] told me that he knows without any bit of doubt that his
father did not write the petek, and that no natural explanation was
found. He asked me to be carefull not to quote this information in his
name out of fear for what the other Slonim chasiddim and "gedoley
breslev" will do to him !!!!!!! The grandson that you quoted was not
alive at the time, and was only repeating the "heresay" that was
purposely inventented to hide the miraculous event. He refused to be
taped. Now that he is not in olam hazeh, I can quote him. So if you
don't have enough belief in Rabbi Nachman to believe that the story of
the petek could be true, there is nothing I can do to help you.
A quick survey in Uman on Rosh Hashana will reveal that the fringe
qroup is probably about 50 - 70 percent of those coming to Uman, and
growing stronger every year. Interesting for being "fringe".

as an afterword, I think Avrohom Ashkenazey was born to his parents
after they had been married for 6 six years without having any
children, even though their family were great opposers and mockers of
Breslov, the father appealed to Rabbi Yisroel Karduner for help. Saba
told over the story as follows:

"Our grandeur and splendor, our righteous Messiah will reveal" of
Breslov, our greatness, this is Breslov's... with the gold, six gold
lira, this was very valuable, and he (Rabbi Yisroel Karduner) told him
and he gave it to him (Rabbi Yisroel) immediately, right away, all the
money! Gold six gold coins and there was a birth from this! Now, he's
eight year old... His father got married, and six years after the
wedding they didn't have children, and he came to Rabbi Yisroel, his
father, and he told him (Rabbi Yisroel), I got married six years ago
and I don't have children. So Rabbi Yisroel said to him that he should
give six gold coins, six gold lira, and that's what was, he gave six
gold lira, and Avrohom is living now, with the money, he is now eighty
years old! "I need to give the publisher, I need to give six lira,
give me six lira." and he didn't tell him that he would have children,
so "give me six lira" this is sufficient, this and he lives now, he is
now eighty years old, his name is Avrohom Ashkenazey... Great
opposers, all, the grandfather... and greats, but they didn't listen,
they went to Rabbi Yisroel and they told him that they are now married
for six years and they do not have children, so Rabbi Yisroel said to
him, "give me six lira" six gold lira, oy, he gave him (Rabbi
Yisroel), and this is Avrohom Ashkenazey. He is living today. With the
six lira! Rabbi Yisroel, he didn't speak much, succinctly, six lira,
"give six lira" and he gave him then, yes, exactly six lira, and till
today he lives, he is eighty years old... and his father told me, that
he got married, and six years after the wedding they did not have
children. Rabbi Yisroel was in Meron, so he went to Rav Yisroel and he
said to him, with these words, "I got married, and I already have six
years, I got married and I do not have children!" so Rabbi Yisroel
told him, "give me six gold lira" and that's what was, he gave him,
and he is now eighty years old...

Great blessings of Na Nach Nachmu Nachman Meuman!

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